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Children are rude to teachers in school, to the point that is intolerable

Parents NEED to take ownership of their horrible, nightmare brats. I'm at a point where I keep the police on speed dial, and report any abuse in public places, perhaps when parents have gone broke paying for lawyers they'll get the message that "I" as a citizen will not fall victim to their out of control kids. I think school teachers everywhere should get out of the profession and do something else. UNless they're into abuse, I doubt anything will change for the better anytime soon, and most parents are probably saying," it's not my kid." And behind they as they're saying this their little darling is selling drugs to YOUR kids. DEAD BEAT PARENTS. Who are to damn busy to raise their own kids, basically they're raising themselves. Don't you have to be HOME with the kids to raise them, and teach them right from wrong? No I am fed up of all these really self-proclaimed,"politically correct" crappy solutions that have never worked and never will work. Get off your butts and raise your own damn kids and teach them the basics, honor thy father and mother might be a good place to start. MAYBE just maybe it'll kick in. But I have me doubts.
Posted by D. Ingram on May 25, 2010

At the moment I am teaching will be teachers in China. The feed back I am getting from previous students tellls me the problem is world wide. I see it as a state and universal problem that must be addressed as a national concern by all governments as it is a far more pressing concern than climate change will ever be in fact the feeding of the idea that the planet is doomed because of the staus quo will add to the causes later as this generation shows its discontent in more anti social ways in a few years. The problem must be affixed to parental responsiblity world wide not just isolate it as one countries concern, I am sure the chinese government is as concerned about this feature of the spoilt undisciplined child, as it is a common today because economic growth has not been paralled with growth in wwisdom . I will not go into the biological causes of this here as I have covered that in a book I have written yet not published which explains the generic reasons for shifts in behaviour. I suggest the government should be seen as working together it will affect all of them any way economically it is an economic problem. I suggest that the parents are responsible for the way children behave in class and coincidently have asked my Chinese students exactly the same question. I doubt if the problem can be solved over night it must be solved through the understanding of how positive psychology works through the generations. We cannot legislate against behaviour but we can create an ethos around parental responsiblity. Simply put, kids parents must be brought into the conversation as soon as possible with the children present. Joint meetings with parents teachers and government authority such as the police should be organised so that the children begin to understand the gravity of the concern we have. I believe in being extremely logical and honest with all children do not insult their intelligence, do not lie or make promises do not try to buy them in any way at all this will only encourage poor behaviour in others. Many times it is combination of poor diet poor sleep programs and poor examples from parents and media. Many of the parents are as ignorant as their children so we must put this into perspective and must include them in the solution . But I do urge all governments to take this as serious as climate change because it is a far more challenging concern because of how these unruly children will turn into nite mare adults later and there will be lots and lots of them. Coopracy is intellectual evolution through the application of positive logic
Posted by graham Thomas on December 15, 2009

The parents are responsible 24x7 for the actions of their off-spring. If children misbehave the parents should be held fully accountable. Parents should be forced to attend child behavioral classes and fines implemented. Social workers should become involved why children are being 'rude', whether it be diet, social interaction or neglect. Too little is placed on self responsibility in modern society.
Posted by Steve Cunningham on December 8, 2009

There are working solutions to this problem, but they must be supported by the principal and teachers. The teachers and principals have to model good behavior, respect the kids, and that is VERY difficult for teachers to do in the current environment where everything is out of control. The systems exist but cost money and the teachers don't want their money spent in such abstract areas.
Posted by Larry MacDonald on December 8, 2009

Address the cause, and rehabilitate through empowering the positive drive Children reflect our deeds in society. Unless we see our own neglect of care for upbringing of children, their misbehavior will not go away. However, we can't undo existing conditions of many kids. What we can do, is to transform the education paradigm. Any class of any topic at any age of children can be transformed into an interactive workshop between kids and the teacher. Every session can have a tangible target with rewards for all the kids and recognition for initiatives and drive. Kids can be grouped into project teams (and rotated) and clearly explained they have finite resources (like time, class materials, etc.) and launched into a dynamic achievement cycle. Achievements would be the contents of the subject required for learning, layered with fun. Added fun could be as simple as telling a story, singing a song, acting a phrase, or even cooking muffins for the class (even if class has nothing to do with these side activities). Of course, the teachers require some conditioning too. But, look at the results. Kids will see every day of school as a challenge to enjoy, learn and achieve something. Are these what we all hope in life at later years ? Then why not practice positive lifestyles from school ?
Posted by Alin Nesvaderani on May 12, 2009

We do agree: Violence is not the essential reason that schools are unsuccessful. We agree that violence is not caused by schools, and that in every community the schools are the safest environment that students are likely to encounter. That was not the point, however, that I was making. The point was that we live in a society where authority of all kinds has been eroded, that the media regularly and consistently undermines adult authority, and that schools are no longer safe from the intrusions of the street and the popular culture. No matter whether schools are progressive or traditional (are there any such?), no matter what their curriculum, they still must worry about knives, guns, disrespect, theft, drugs, alcohol, pregnant 14-year-olds, and what happens in the bathrooms. It ain’t “Little House on the Prairie” anymore. OK, that’s just the way it is. We have learned, these past few decades, to lower our expectations, even our ideals. We have learned to tolerate intolerable behavior. I also wrote that this climate change was not a function of whether a school was traditional or progressive. You responded to my post with a ringing defense of progressive schools, and I was left to ponder a conundrum. We have in the past disagreed about where to place the burden of social reform. Sometimes I have argued, perhaps too strongly, that schools—or rather, great education—could build a better social order (echoing the famous 1932 challenge of George Counts to his colleagues “Dare the Schools Build a New Social Order?”). You, Richard Rothstein, and many others, have taken the opposite tack, that schools—no matter how wonderful—cannot alone reverse the corrosive effects of poverty. Over time, I have altered my views about what schools can accomplish on their own and about their limited ability to replace or compensate for other social and economic policy changes. They can provide educational opportunity but they cannot build a new social order. Thus I am left confused and dumbstruck—well, not really dumbstruck—when you switch gears and propose that the problems of disconnected, angry adolescence can be solved by creating the right kind of progressive school. I am not persuaded. Last week, I went to hear Professor Richard Pring, the director of the British evaluation team called the Nuffield Review. He spoke passionately about the wrong turn that British education has taken in the past generation. His complaints about over-testing and about the marginalization of teachers would have heartened you, I feel certain. He had a few choice words for Sir Michael Barber, who moved rather smoothly from advising the government of Tony Blair to working for McKinsey & Company, where the mantra is (and I paraphrase): “What matters most is what can be measured; whatever can be measured can be controlled.” Professor Pring commented that Barber was bringing to America the same dismal regime of testing and accountability that had proved so toxic and ineffective in England (see my earlier blog in which I released—with his permission—Pring’s unpublished letter to The New York Times). He also was amused that the New York City Department of Education was paying several millions of dollars to British educators (the Cambridge Education Group) to evaluate the schools, because their “expertise” is no greater than that of local N.Y.C. educators. And his comments about the Orwellian nature of the business language that has invaded the vocabulary of educators were priceless. At one point in the discussion, a teacher asked Mr. Pring whether he was proposing that schools should make up their own curriculum, and he said he was not. He said that there must be a framework, some overarching agreement on what should be taught in school. I like that idea. What would such a framework look like? That would be a good starting point for our next exchange.
Posted by Pramod Kumar on March 4, 2009

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